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Tuesday, 13 August, 2002, 10:38 GMT 11:38 UK
Are we drinking too much?
Heavy drinking is to blame for a "staggering" rise in deaths from liver disease in the UK.
Scientists believe that widespread alcohol abuse and poor diets could explain a 100% increase in the number of deaths. The increase was even more alarming for Asian men - who were found to be four times as likely to die as a result of liver disease. While the number of cases of fatal liver disease caused by alcohol rose in 2000, Dr Neil Fisher, who conducted the research, says part of the increase is down to heavy drinking by some people, as the amount of alcohol consumed by Britons as a whole did not rise. Experts have already predicted an explosion in the numbers of people on transplant waiting lists over the next decade. Are we drinking too much alcohol? How much is too much? What's to blame for Britain's boozy culture?
Alcohol is an insidious drug that causes a creeping addiction to those who use it regularly. Few people have the courage to own up to being an alcoholic, but many of the young drinkers are already addicted. The damage this drug is doing to our society is enormous. It's about time the companies who produce the stuff start taking responsibility for the effect that their products are wreaking on our society. Perhaps then Pubs and clubs would take further measures to stop providing drink to those already inebriated, and the manufacturers of alcopops and super-strength lagers would finally be brought to book for releasing such irresponsible products onto the market.
A few weeks ago I was out in Reading on a Friday night and what struck me is that no one really seemed that happy. Identical looking men in their late teens and early twenties were downing huge amounts of lager while their identical looking girlfriends swilled alcopops. Every bar was pumping out so called R'n'B music so loud that conversation was impossible. In every bar was an atmosphere of competition and simmering tension. The actual point of everyone's evening seemed to be to get plastered and to shut out the real world around them. Is reality really that bad in this country? I have never known any other country to drink in the way that we do for the reasons that we do.
Bill, UK
I go out once a week. And 9 times out of 10 I will have one too many. I do not see this as a problem. I am out having a good time with my friends and socialising. And to those who do not see going out and getting drunk is a good way to socialise should try it sometime! My friends and I will have the recommended 5-6 drinks in a week, but in one night and not drink the rest of the week. In my view, there is nothing wrong with this "binge drinking". I'd rather have one good night out a week than 5 quiet ones.
Dan, UK
Abuse of alcohol is part of young male culture. All that detestable cobblers leads to all sorts of crimes. Depressingly, instead of preventing it, society now encourages young women to behave just as badly in a sickening attempt at equality.
You can ban all alcopops and I'll cheer. You can close all the corporate breweries and every themed pub or off-licence and I'll sigh with relief. They are all aggressive, government sanctioned, drug-pushers. But don't mess with the quietly wonderful ale in the village pub; that would be cultural suicide.
Tim Hawkins, England
I see the problem as being part of the overall decline in standards. It was once seen as shocking for somebody to appear drunk in public. Now a lot of people's idea of a Friday or Saturday night is getting drunk. I also think a lot of people in the UK suffer from a lack of confidence, and the buzz from drink makes them feel good about themselves. Perhaps they need to be shown other ways of achieving self-respect.
Martina, UK
Some people can drink in moderation. Others inherit a gene that leads to alcoholism. Many in the US and UK point to Europe as the ideal. Drinking at home in moderation, prepares teenagers to drink responsibly. But Europeans often have mild liver damage, not always the cause of death, but on autopsy this is a common finding. Problems of binge drinking and then either driving or fighting are widespread in many cultures. Parents need to act with responsibility with their drinking at home and of course keep the lines of communication open.
Joe, England
Prior to moving to Australia I spent most of my free time in pubs. The reason for this was boredom due to the lack of sporting facilities where I grew up (and the weather). Since moving to Australia I have found a new level of fitness, and a healthier attitude to alcohol, by enjoying the sporting facilities that are on offer (followed by a few well-earned drinks!!)
I think Kiran is right. Blame the weather, but the situation is not improved by the working culture of this country or successive governments who don't provide enough sporting/cultural facilities.
Alcohol should not be banned but the age at which a person should be allowed to drink alcohol in a public place should be raised to 47. This is the age of responsibility when few people have anything worth proving to their peers and hence tend to behave themselves in pubs.
In my whole time living in Amsterdam, only drunk English men have threatened or attacked me. If I see a fight in the centre, I cringe because I know it is two very basic Brits, and I have yet to be proved wrong. Just three nights ago I saw yet more Brits enjoying their holiday in Amsterdam by breaking some poor kid's skull. I called an ambulance and helped all I could, but there is only so much you can do when you are faced with idiots like the British.
To Matt, Amsterdam. I think you should lighten up a bit. It's not only the Brits in Amsterdam who get into fights. I have been threatened by the Dutch in Amsterdam just because I was British and having a quiet drink.
C, England
One of the issues that many of these scientific researches fail to take into account is the matter of longevity, or if they do, they do not mention it. The longer we live, the greater the chance of dying from diseases that claimed fewer lives fifty years ago, when people died before the disease got hold of them. That can be said as much for cancer of the prostate, as it can for liver disease.
For God's sake stop fretting and enjoy life. It's the only one you'll get. How on earth did our forebears survive long enough to beget descendants without all the good advice which is inflicted upon us?
John D, UK
Drinking is a culture perpetuated by British tradition down the years. Like other British traditions, this will be difficult to change. There is a work hard, drink hard attitude in young people. If you don't drink it is considered unsociable. People even drink during lunch and after work. Changing pub opening hours will not help much, because people just drink more during the shorter opening hours or at home.
I've worked as a doctor in France, and the patients showed a lot more signs of alcohol abuse than the British. As for the doctors and nurses - they always had a few drinks at dinnertime, then went back to work! Enough to get you fired here.
Rob, England
The problem with the current drinking culture is that it's all about getting bladdered and NOT about just enjoying a nice pint and socialising.
I am in favour of our 'pub culture', it will never disappear. I too am one of the growing majority who enjoys the occasional social pint or two. On the other hand, this year I lost my mother (aged 47) due to years of alcohol abuse. She was part of a loving, supportive family, but unfortunately, some people slip dangerously into a vicious addiction, some cannot be helped unless they seek it. Alcohol can be fun but it does not solve problems!!
Hannah, UK
Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights are now no-go for me because of the aggressive, moronic attitudes of the thugs that make up town-centre drinking. Our society is becoming more and more egotistical and self-serving.
Louise Saltmarshe, UK
Many parents bring their children up with no concept of how to drink responsibly either by drinking to excess or never drinking around them. It is interesting that the survey noticed a particular problem for young Asians whose parents are likely to be teetotal. In contrast, on the continent parents drink moderately at family meal times and even allow their children to drink a little, taking away the mystique. Our crazy licensing laws do not help our situation.
Dave, Kent, UK
Maybe the plethora of do-gooders trying to control or analyse the amount others drink has driven us all to the bottle.
Drink in moderation - it is possible. Regular heavy drinking and intoxication, even if with friends, seems to me to be a basic sign of insecurity and lack of direction in life. Not only can alcohol abuse cause serious life threatening diseases over time, but the loss of self control, when drunk, can also have unforeseen, severe and tragic consequences.
Drinking, even in excess, is in no way a strictly UK phenomenon. My theory is that if you work hard, why should you not be allowed to play hard? I work upwards of 60 hours per week and wouldn't want anyone, (councils, pubs, whoever), dictating to me how I should spend what little leisure time I have afforded to me.
Matty L, UK
My friends from overseas are constantly amazed at the drink culture here. For some people it isn't enough to enjoy a drink in company, they have to get completely out of it, vomit and start a fight, in fact for some people that seems to be a perfect night out.
I don't know how things have got like this. Maybe our licensing laws were too strict for too long and encouraged binge drinking but whatever the reason something should be done otherwise we are going to have a generation of people dying from liver disease.
Getting wasted has always been part of European culture, but now we've the problem of it being promoted as an essential lifestyle choice by the big drink and leisure companies. They're in the business of persuading people that if you're not out getting drunk, you're missing out. Couple that with Britain's innate desire to achieve inebriation anyway, and we have a dangerous cocktail (and one that isn't called Screaming Orgasm at that).
Eddie Dubourg, UK
People associate drinking with social pleasure. "We must go out for a drink sometime" would never be replaced by "Do you fancy going for a run sometime?" It is a social thing that has been in place for hundreds of years. Unfortunately it will probably never change. If scientists could come up with a drug called Dutch Courage that was good for you, then the drinking culture will subside.
Perhaps the government should raise the legal drinking age to 21, as is the case in many other countries. This may help to cut down on the problem of under age drinking, although it is unlikely to make a big impact. If we can cut down on the number of teenagers who are binge drinking, then we would also see a reduction in crimes such as vandalism and assault, as well as the number of youngsters clogging up A&E departments on a Saturday night!
To Lesley, Scotland, if you want to see how a society deals with a drinking age of 21, just look at America. The teenagers abuse alcohol like no-one's business. No, we want to be more like France, and have booze as a normal and everyday part of life.
Thom, UK
We are the pariah of Europe, with our nanny-like drinking laws dating back to the First World War. This encourages unhealthy binge drinking rather than promoting a healthy social mindset to alcohol. It's time for reform!
There's always someone else to blame - the pub opening hours, the brewery advertising, the cheap cost. It's never the idiot who pours pint after pint down his neck to beat the last bell, who cannot sit for a few hours and actually taste and savour a good pint. I think it's about time people start to take individual responsibility and stop blaming others for their own stupidity.
Chris, England
I think the UK has a serious problem with drink. I personally rarely drink and I find it amazing the lengths people will go to try to make me drink. An awful lot of people seem to have got it into their heads that they can't have any fun unless they're drunk. Or they can't meet anyone unless they're drunk. None of this is true, and those attitudes need to be challenged.
Having lived all my life in the UK, I took excess drinking as being the norm. Children getting so drunk at night that adults fear for their safety, not to mention the behaviour of the adults themselves. It wasn't until I went to Greece on holiday that I really despised the way we abuse alcohol. At night you can walk down the streets of suburban Athens and be shocked at the silence. No kids in groups, intoxicating themselves and bringing others down who walk past. No twentysomethings coming home in groups, hardly able to walk. Adults know how to behave there and keep a careful watch on their children.
Al, Germany (ex-UK) A friend of mine has liver problems. He was prescribed drugs for many years. A known side effect of the drugs is liver damage if they are taken for too long. Yet, because he ran a pub, the hospital claim the damage is down to drink. I find this hard to believe as he could make a pint last all evening. I think many people are being diagnosed with drink related liver problems, as a drug related one would open the NHS up to legal actions.
In the 19th century Britain was at the forefront of industry, commerce and Empire. The hard work and long hours involved in maintaining this state of affairs caused many to retreat into gin and opium at the end of the working day. Today what has changed? We may not be at the forefront of anything but our working hours are the longest in Europe - is it any wonder we all escape through drink and other drugs?
Pauleen, England
Our drinking culture was governed for many years by ludicrous opening hours, which encouraged heavy binge drinking during the times that we were actually permitted to buy alcohol. Couple this with the hours we work (the longest in Europe) and the associated stress levels and it really is no surprise that so many people turn to the bottle. If we expected to be a part of Europe then it's high time that the government began taking positive steps to adopting a culture which promotes the benefits of a European lifestyle. |
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